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Re: Harassment from Revadike
« Reply #15,  »
Korra is worth that much? Gosh. I have it but never played it... I love the show but the game isn't supposed to be great. I should have kept my key and resold it 😂

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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Quote from BlackDraft on September 23rd, 07:02 PM
Thanks, that's good to hear.

I have to comment on the fairness, though. The games he was offering were not just in some bundle but given away for free. Currently going for about €1 on the gray market.
To ask for God of War, The Last of Us, Kerbal Space Program 2 (all between €20 and €30 at the time) and even The Legend of Korra (delisted; €250) in return is nothing but a blatant rip-off attempt of the highest magnitude. And you can't tell me he didn't know exactly what he was doing.
On Barter.vg ( https://barter.vg/u/48e/t/ ), you can even see that he grabbed at least ten copies of each. Greedy as can be.
Ok, this is actually upsetting now. I never intentionally harassed anyone! And trying to have me banned for it is far worse than anything I did. If anything, you’re the one coming after me now. Plus, you're really disingenuous about me and my trade offer. I don’t trade for profit, I just trade for games I want. I offered two games that are worth at least $3 on ggdeals, not "about €1", and only for 1 of your games. I just picked the games I like as an option for you to choose. I don't want to assume your valuation of games. It's up to you to decide which game you value the least, which btw, includes Freedom Fighters that actually goes around 1 euro. So you're right, it's actually unfair... towards me.

Bro, I sent you 2 offers, JUST TWO. One of them was an honest mistake because I forgot I had already sent one before, and I already apologized for that. This equals harassment?? You think its good to ban me for it?? I never had an issue with you personally, but this whole situation and your attitude here frustrates me a lot. Please delete this thread already! It's spreading false information and makes me look awful over nothing.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
« Reply #17,  »Last edited by BlackDraft
You didn't send me just two offers. I've blocked you on Barter.vg already because of your repeated rip-off offers.

You then sent another offer here. I've told you in very clear words to never contact me again. Less than an hour later, you contact me again.
The next day, I say once again to leave me alone. Less than two hours later, you contact me again. It's all publicly visible:
https://lestrades.com/offer/25730/

I ignore you for the time being, only to receive yet another offer from you here a couple of days later:
https://lestrades.com/offer/25815/
You only canceled that after I created this thread:
https://lestrades.com/tribunal/188/harassment-from-revadike/msg2814/#msg2814

Shortly afterwards, you already talk about "future trades" with me again:
https://lestrades.com/tribunal/188/harassment-from-revadike/msg2818/#msg2818

What is wrong with you? Leave me the hell alone.

And don't bother justifying your shit offers, either. It's pathetic and insulting trying to spin this offer as favorable towards me.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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Quote from Nao 尚 on October 9th, 10:06 PM
Korra is worth that much? Gosh. I have it but never played it... I love the show but the game isn't supposed to be great. I should have kept my key and resold it 😂
It plays quite nicely. It is not too complex and arguably the most difficult part is right at the start when your character has not leveled up yet for the more powerful attacks. Still, it is quite satisfying to play around with the elemental attacks and take down opponents. It does not overstay its welcome. The show was good and so was the game in my opinion.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
« Reply #21,  »
No fighting, please. :-)
It's just video games!

And you both have a point. One of you has a better point, but it doesn't justify any name calling from either side.
Please behave yourselves.

Revadike, I take it you'll never send offers to BlackDraft again, at least not before consulting gg.deals data?
BlackDraft, I take it you'll stop complaining about him AND his past offers, regardless of their quality?

If either of you disappoints me, I'll have to take action. I don't want to take action. Thank you for your attention!

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
« Reply #22,  »
No. If you still want to permit him sending me any further offers, just delete my account here instead.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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I also think that the most toxic and inadequate one here is BlackDraft and he should be banned for insulting other users! He banned me on Barter for 1 offer, OK, fine, I was a newbie then and it was one of my first offers on Barter and I didn’t really understand the prices. Now I made an offer here to trade my 214 games for his 2 and guess what he said? "I've blocked you for a reason, you dumb fuck. Who do you think you are? Never contact me again."!
Question for everyone: Do you think this is normal? Do you consider him a normal member of the community?

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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He's a picky trader. I sent him 15 offers over at BVG about 6 to 8 years ago, and he always declined without countering. No completed trades. Some people are like that, I suppose. I try not to judge. I simply stopped sending offers.

@BlackDraft, I try not to delete accounts that have completed trades under their belt because it would screw up trade histories. (I'm not sure I ever did...) If you insist, I can do it, but please confirm first.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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Quote from Kelleidorn on October 29th, 08:49 PM
I also think that the most toxic and inadequate one here is BlackDraft and he should be banned for insulting other users! He banned me on Barter for 1 offer, OK, fine, I was a newbie then and it was one of my first offers on Barter and I didn’t really understand the prices. Now I made an offer here to trade my 214 games for his 2 and guess what he said? "I've blocked you for a reason, you dumb fuck. Who do you think you are? Never contact me again."!
Question for everyone: Do you think this is normal? Do you consider him a normal member of the community?
Unbelievable.
You piece of shit intentionally circumvented a block; your comment on that offer outright admits it. Question for you: Do you think this is normal?
Toxic and inadequate my ass. You want something from me, so I have to comply, whether I want to or not?
Then, despite me telling you to never contact me again - surprise, surprise -, you contact me again. Fuck off. Fuck off, you goddamn piece of shit. Toxic and inadequate, alright.
Of course, just like with Revadike, it doesn't end there. I repeat to him that he should get lost. What does he do? Naturally, he keeps at it. He wants something from me, so he does not care. Does not give the slightest fuck in the universe. What do I want? Pfft, why would that matter. Kelleidorn wants something, so Kelleidorn will not stop until he gets it - that is, until I play along.
Quote from Nao 尚 on October 30th, 01:56 PM
He's a picky trader. I sent him 15 offers over at BVG about 6 to 8 years ago, and he always declined without countering. No completed trades. Some people are like that, I suppose. I try not to judge. I simply stopped sending offers.

@BlackDraft, I try not to delete accounts that have completed trades under their belt because it would screw up trade histories. (I'm not sure I ever did...) If you insist, I can do it, but please confirm first.
Yes, delete my account. I'm sick of those assholes thinking I owe them something (and then even playing the victim). If people are allowed to keep bothering me, although I've made it very clear I want them to stop, as if that's not a textbook case of harassment, whereas I'm "toxic and inadequate" for telling them off, I don't want to be here anymore. What a goddamn clown show.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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Quote from Kelleidorn on October 29th, 08:49 PM
I also think that the most toxic and inadequate one here is BlackDraft and he should be banned for insulting other users! He banned me on Barter for 1 offer, OK, fine, I was a newbie then and it was one of my first offers on Barter and I didn’t really understand the prices. Now I made an offer here to trade my 214 games for his 2 and guess what he said? "I've blocked you for a reason, you dumb fuck. Who do you think you are? Never contact me again."!
Question for everyone: Do you think this is normal? Do you consider him a normal member of the community?
Completely agree. I had a similar experience. The guy is rude, toxic, unhinged and clearly has issues. Looking at his frothing responses makes me think it is some kind of child who has not learnt to control their emotions yet.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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Ah, another one:
https://i.imgur.com/gNXShJc.jpeg
Dude lowballs a rare pre-order item ( https://barter.vg/u/bc9/o/5558817/ ), which not a single person other than myself has available on all of Barter.vg, Lestrade's, SteamTrades and the gray market. I simply block him and move on with my life.
Later, it turns out that he, too, does not accept a "no". See a pattern, yet? He contacts me again and, because I had forgotten about him already, I just say that he should make an offer. He does, except not really (unless he really thought this would be a fair deal):
https://lestrades.com/offer/25483/
I decline. Speaking of children, even a child would understand that asking me what I want is not making an offer; it's getting me to make one. Nevertheless, he attempts some lame cop-out about the quantity not being assignable - although he clearly knows how to leave a comment. I tell him to leave me alone.
Truly, so very horrible of me. How can ViToos ever recover from that "experience"? Please pray for him, everyone.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
« Reply #28,  »
Quote from BlackDraft on October 30th, 07:00 PM
Quote from Kelleidorn on October 29th, 08:49 PM
I also think that the most toxic and inadequate one here is BlackDraft and he should be banned for insulting other users! He banned me on Barter for 1 offer, OK, fine, I was a newbie then and it was one of my first offers on Barter and I didn’t really understand the prices. Now I made an offer here to trade my 214 games for his 2 and guess what he said? "I've blocked you for a reason, you dumb fuck. Who do you think you are? Never contact me again."!
Question for everyone: Do you think this is normal? Do you consider him a normal member of the community?
Unbelievable.
You piece of shit intentionally circumvented a block; your comment on that offer outright admits it. Question for you: Do you think this is normal?
Toxic and inadequate my ass. You want something from me, so I have to comply, whether I want to or not?
Then, despite me telling you to never contact me again - surprise, surprise -, you contact me again. Fuck off. Fuck off, you goddamn piece of shit. Toxic and inadequate, alright.
Of course, just like with Revadike, it doesn't end there. I repeat to him that he should get lost. What does he do? Naturally, he keeps at it. He wants something from me, so he does not care. Does not give the slightest fuck in the universe. What do I want? Pfft, why would that matter. Kelleidorn wants something, so Kelleidorn will not stop until he gets it - that is, until I play along.
Quote from Nao 尚 on October 30th, 01:56 PM
He's a picky trader. I sent him 15 offers over at BVG about 6 to 8 years ago, and he always declined without countering. No completed trades. Some people are like that, I suppose. I try not to judge. I simply stopped sending offers.

@BlackDraft, I try not to delete accounts that have completed trades under their belt because it would screw up trade histories. (I'm not sure I ever did...) If you insist, I can do it, but please confirm first.
Yes, delete my account. I'm sick of those assholes thinking I owe them something (and then even playing the victim). If people are allowed to keep bothering me, although I've made it very clear I want them to stop, as if that's not a textbook case of harassment, whereas I'm "toxic and inadequate" for telling them off, I don't want to be here anymore. What a goddamn clown show.
You could have just said that you were interested, and not started your conversation with insults! I said directly that if you don't like something, make a counter offer, that's how it works in the civilized world. Throwing your shit at everyone can cause a counter reaction from those you throw it at. Yes, you have some rare games, so everyone should lick your ass for that? I think you trade on these sites only to feed your own ego and show yourself above others, to feel like a god and decide who to execute and who to spare.
For example, I need the game Furry Girl and with a probability of 99% your key has already been revoked by Valve, but it may work, it is unknown. I bought and tried many keys for this game, but they were revoked. I am not a psychic and I do not know what you want, so I offered so many games for exchange and offered to make a counter offer if you did not like something or no longer need it, but you preferred to go another way.

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Re: Harassment from Revadike
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Quote from Nao 尚 on October 29th, 05:07 PM
No fighting, please. :-)
It's just video games!

And you both have a point. One of you has a better point, but it doesn't justify any name calling from either side.
Please behave yourselves.

Revadike, I take it you'll never send offers to BlackDraft again, at least not before consulting gg.deals data?
BlackDraft, I take it you'll stop complaining about him AND his past offers, regardless of their quality?

If either of you disappoints me, I'll have to take action. I don't want to take action. Thank you for your attention!
I can't promise that. It may happen by mistake. The best I can do is try.

Please, remove this topic, or at least change the topic name. It's bothers me **a lot** seeing this on the front page of lestrades every time I open it, anyone that visits lestrades for that matter...